Edge تؤكد : باي باي للألعاب المستعملة مع الإكس بوكس القادم

You’ve got to admire Microsoft’s bravery. News that its next Xbox could shut out the second-hand games market has caused strong reactions across social media today, and it has impacted upon the real world too. GameStop’s share price took a dent following the publication of our story earlier this afternoon.


If our sources are correct (and we’re confident they are), Microsoft has made the move that publishers and developers have been asking for. Microsoft’s next Xbox will do what Steam and the App Store have been doing for years, and very successfully, too – a download-first, one profile, one purchase, one storefront system. Overnight, it’ll stop GameStop and GAME from selling on games without a penny heading back to its publisher, let alone its creator.

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The key differences between Steam, the App Store and the next iteration of Xbox Live are in pricing and that ‘always-on’ detail. There’s good reason no-one really cares that you can’t trade in Steam and App Store games – often, they’re so cheap it barely seems worth the bother. One can easily call into question whether download-first next-gen games will actually be any cheaper because they skip costly manufacturing and distribution processes. One would expect they won’t be. On first impressions, Microsoft is taking a huge risk in cutting out a second-hand games ecosystem which keeps gaming affordable and its players interested in the box under their television.

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Microsoft has also, rather more sensibly, surmised that the kind of consumer happy to pay for a next-generation console is going to have a decent internet connection. It is not a portable device; there’s little harm in keeping the next Xbox connected, as long as the next iteration of Xbox Live is implemented in the right way. Past experiences with always-on services have been disappointing – just ask Ubisoft and Blizzard – but that’s current generation technology. Microsoft must take note of its contemporaries’ mistakes and make its always-on Xbox service as unobtrusive as it can.

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T Y K i قال:

فالمقابل المفروض سعر الالعاب تنخفض.

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فالمقابل المفروض سعر الالعاب تنخفض.

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مايكروسوفت تقوم بمخاطرة كبيرة

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الخبر مو جديد على الساحة خخخ سوني كانت تخطط وتلمح من فترة انها توقف دعم الالعاب المستعملة من خلال جهازها القادم وصراحة ما استبعد يكون هناك اتفاق بين الشركات الناشرة للالعاب وسوني ومايكروسوفت على انهم يوقفون الدعم وخاصة ان خطوة مثل هذي تحتاج مشاركة الجميع.

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مع اني معاهم ضد الألعاب المستعملة

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أنا قلت من قبل إن مايكروسوفت مش لهالدرجة غبية.
بس مؤخراً قاعد أفكر، يمكن اللاعبين لهالدرجة أغبياء...
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ويعطيهم دافع قوي لأصدار العابهم وبشكل حصري على جهاز مايكروسوفت القادم

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مع اني معاهم ضد الألعاب المستعملة

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الحين مش هذا الموضوع نفسه هذا
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What’s trickier for Microsoft is in explaining its decision when faced with Sony’s plans for the PlayStation 4. Walk into a game retailer (should you be able to find one by the time these consoles arrive) and the choice could be simple: PlayStation 4 is more powerful, and plays second-hand games. One can imagine how fruitful a call between Kaz Hirai and Don Mattrick might have been had they both agreed to take the same measures against second-hand sales.

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يمكن ما راح يمنعون المستعمل بشكل كلي ؟ نفس سالفة الباس أونلاين بدل ما يكون للملتي يكون للعبة.​

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If our sources are correct (and we’re confident they are), Microsoft has made the move that publishers and developers have been asking for. Microsoft’s next Xbox will do what Steam and the App Store have been doing for years, and very successfully, too – a download-first, one profile, one purchase, one storefront system. Overnight, it’ll stop GameStop and GAME from selling on games without a penny heading back to its publisher, let alone its creator

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hussien-11 قال:

اقرأ الموضوع جيدا يا صديقي



عموما نقطتك منطقية، و ممكن تكون موجودة في أجندة مايكرو كخطة B في حال المستهلك رفض حركتهم هذه.

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Super Shadow قال:

لو كان الألعاب بالجهاز بتكون ديجيتال بنبلعها ، بس المشكلة أنها سيديات و اذا تعطل الجهاز لازم أشتري نسخ ثانية منهم ؟؟!

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"Unless you believe in collusion – unless you believe that all the console manufacturers are going to get together and scheme to screw the consumer, and at least in the U.S. we have laws against that, so probably none of them would do that – then if one of them did that unilaterally (any one of those things), the others would say, "Hey wait a minute, we have a disc drive. Ours will play used games. Buy ours instead of there's.'

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“I think the industry will disintegrate; I think there will be no more video games if next-gen consoles don’t support used games. You hear that, Sony and Microsoft? You have to support used games,” he said.

“Why would the next-gen consoles not support used games? Sony doesn’t sell that much software; maybe 10% of sales are Sony products. Everything else, the other 90%, is third-party. Sony isn’t going to help its overall sales that much – let’s go with 1%, 2%,” he said.

This tiny increase would be demolished if users flocked to Microsoft’s new hardware, Pachter said which they would almost certainly do if it supported used games and Sony’s didn’t. The two companies are not only too smart to give the other side the advantage, he reiterated, but also not “evil” enough to “collude” against the gamer.

“What does it actually cost [publishers] if people trade in used games and some people buy used games instead of new games? My guess is 5% of software sales, probably,” he said.

“Because most people don’t finish new games in a week. Most people take thrtee weeks to a month to finish games. Not everybody buys a game the first day. You probably don’t get that many games traded in; in reality about 40% of games get traded back in.”

“So what’s the cannibalisation? I’d say probably 5%. I’d say about 5% of the time somebody buys a used game instead of a new game, that costs the publisher a new sale.”

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said in a note to investors yesterday that any claim that Sony would try to block used games on its next console fails to realize that the company "benefits little from a unilateral decision to block games."
"Sony would be materially hurt if its console blocked used games and competitor consoles from Microsoft and Nintendo did not,"
Pachter wrote. "The Wii U is already on the market with no used game prohibition, and we believe that Microsoft would take advantage of Sony's prospective decision to block used games by marketing that its own next generation did NOT block used games."
Pachter went on to say that an unidentified Sony "senior official" has said that the company "has no desire to limit consumer choice."

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According to market analyst, Michael Pachter, who recounted a meeting he had with Tretton at E3.

"He said, 'for the record, I'm totally opposed to blocking used games. I think it's great for the consumer that they can buy those. We have a customer that buys our console late in the cycle, pays less, is looking for value priced games, and I think it would be anti-consumer for us to do that'," Pachter told GameTrailers.com
Tretton was responding to rumors that the as-of-yet unannounced successor to the PS3 - which, according to Kotaku, will be called the Orbis - won't support PS3 games and will block the use of used games. Similar claims have been made about whatever console will follow Pachter himself was dismissive of the rumors about the PS4. "I think it will play used games," he said. "That is the dumbest rumor I've ever heard."

the Xbox 360

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في الحالة الحالية هالامر مختلف .. بشكل عام أتوقع ان مايكرو اشترت كم ناشر .. ويمكن تضمن كم عنوان ضخم بحصرية مؤقتة مثل كود ويمكن فيفا ومادن .. إذا كان البلاي 4 بدايته أقوى من الأكس بوكس وقتها هل بتضمن مايكرو هالامور !

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باكتر سألوه مجدداً عن الألعاب المستعملة و شرح مجدداً ليش هالشي ما راح يصير :

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كمان سألوه عن البلاي 4 و أكد انه ما راح يكون ضد المستعمل و انه جاك تريتون نفسه (رئيس بلايستيشن امريكا) قال له انه مع المستعمل !

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بكذا نطلع انه ما فيش متخلف راح يفكر حتى يمنع المستعمل الجيل القادم :whistle:

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Black JK قال:

مع اني معاهم ضد الألعاب المستعملة

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The Last Lombax قال:

ومتوقع أن المستهلك راح يقبل بالمنع ؟ أكيد ما راح يسكت

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Veeto قال:

CODE-X

القانون اللي تقصده اسمه كارتيل ما ينطبق على هالوضعية يكون للسلع اللي ليها أسعار مختلفة متغيرة ويتفقوا المتنافسين على توحيد الأسعار ويتقاسموا الأسواق

في الحالة الحالية هالامر مختلف .. بشكل عام أتوقع ان مايكرو اشترت كم ناشر .. ويمكن تضمن كم عنوان ضخم بحصرية مؤقتة مثل كود ويمكن فيفا ومادن .. إذا كان البلاي 4 بدايته أقوى من الأكس بوكس وقتها هل بتضمن مايكرو هالامور !

يعني الموضوع كله بيكون حرب طاحنة في أول سنة

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